"Even the spiritual people are still after something. They're after something they think is outside themselves or other than themselves or further away from themselves. So that very subtle perception which means staying still enough for long enough for the whole thing to open up to you is a very rare event."
In this second clip (6 minutes) from my conversation with Amir Freimann and Harri Aalto, Harri raises the question "Why is Self Realization so rare?"